Mat Lock
Coach cam, welcome to The Unleashing Potential Podcast. It’s a pleasure to have you here.
Coach cam
Matt, thanks for having me. Really excited. I saw your podcast and it looks super awesome. So I’m honored to be a guest. Rob.
Mat Lock
Absolutely. Now well, why don’t you go ahead and tell our audience? We’re recording this very early in the morning. In Australia. I think it’s afternoon where you are. So why don’t you go ahead and tell us where in the world you’re sitting and a little bit about yourself?
Coach cam
It is the end of the day here. I’m here in Houston, Texas, we almost got to 100 degrees, almost. I think it’s 97. Last I checked, but it’s the end of the day, at the beginning of football season. So super excited about that.
Mat Lock
Excellent. And your background. Your original background is in American football, correct? college football.
Coach cam
Yeah, so I played college football, I played football and basketball growing up, I ran cross country for a very small window of my life. But you have football has been my first love and a gateway for your life and business along the way.
Mat Lock
Excellent. Well, I’m looking forward to hearing more about that. And just for listeners, in Australia and other parts of the world, I just want to clarify that 97 or 100, where you are is about 36 or 38 degrees Celsius. So that’s a pretty warm day. Do you have a high humidity there? Or is it dry heat?
Coach cam
Oh, so it’s humid and so so we’ve got hot as crap and not hot as crap was out to two seasons. We don’t get like a true false, our leaves are green. Then they’re brown on the floor. There’s no transition.
Mat Lock
They are official measures of humidity and heat. Yeah, I was crapping that hat was crap. That’s it. Love it. So So you started playing college football. And then you moved into a coaching role. Is that right?
Coach cam
Yeah. So I was very blessed. I played football at the University of Houston and enjoyed it and spent actually the very early part of my professional career working in NFL front office, the Houston Texans in their marketing department. And, you know, I was smitten by the coaching bug, unknowingly. And so I was very blessed. I’ve had amazing coaches, my entire Playing career. And it just kind of opened up the door for me to continue, you know, just being around the game, like I was just about earlier, just the love of being around competition, kind of just veered me closer into into the sideline.
Mat Lock
Yeah, excellent. And what do you think it was that drew you say you had the natural bug for coaching even before you knew what, what were the kinds of things you think there were hooks for you that piqued your interest? You know,
Coach cam
so early on. I’m a, you know, a bit of a serendipitous guy early on, I did fill the burden of obligation, when I understood that I was overwhelmingly blessed with really good coaches. And you’re in there kind of young, Spry 20s. And what are you going to do? And it’s like, one, no, I owed it at some point to try to figure out how to pay your forward for the good coaches that I had in my life. And so, you know, it kind of started with a passion and I started, like, literally training kids, I started a youth training company, five star Academy, and, you know, enjoyed it out in the hot sun like this. And, you know, after a couple of months, it’s like, with damage, this is fun, but, you know, six hours a day and the heat is work. And so that’s kind of where I began to evolve. And you know, and begin to build a bit of a business acumen. But really, it was just, you know, I’ve been poured so much into how do I pour this back in the other people?
Mat Lock
Yeah, sure. Interesting. What? So in hindsight, what what were the traits of those coaches that made them so great, what was it that you felt was really, I guess? Yeah. Which which traits Do you think
Coach cam
they were? You know, the first thing I say is the coaches that I had that were the most impactful in my life were probably 70% teachers 30% coach, and so they were truly like Craftsman and marksman of of the sport. And the second side of it is, you know, the 70% teacher, half of that was on field tactical work. The other half of it was just pouring life skills into me through the vehicle of athletics. I had a coach who taught me the lifespan of a Peruvian butterfly as a means to teach me about past pro in an offensive scheme, and so the necessity of the necessity of valuing every moment of a past rep to protect the quarterback through the life of a butterfly that lives 24 hours, like Who does that?
Mat Lock
It’s fascinating for some people. For me, it’s a sign of true intelligence when when someone is able to articulate their message in a number of different ways to be understood by everyone. There’s a definite intelligence, which I appreciate. And it seems you do too. And actually, I’d love to come back to that maybe if we have time to actually hear that. That analogy, how that played out. But for sure, so you moved into the coaching role yourself? How does that work? I mean, how, how do you transition from a player to coach because not everyone can do that? Of course.
Coach cam
Yeah. So first, first, you you hit, you hit the player wall, right, you have to get injured to realize that you’re no longer a player. Yeah, so so I play semi professional for a couple of yours and got hurt. And I think like most things, and I think, like, most things, you find yourself when you come climb down from the tree, you know, very close still to the tree. And so as you kind of hang the cleats up, you figure out, what do you do you look around and say, Well, you know, where have I spent most of my time? Where’s most of my knowledge, understanding, I don’t know much. And so, you know, that’s kind of the natural kind of space. And then, you know, the unique thing, at least here in Texas is, you know, there’s always a person who’s looking to get better. And so, you know, there’s, there’s an overwhelmingly large amount of professional athletes that retire in Texas and Houston due to, you know, the lack of a state tax and the, you know, the extremely low cost of living. And so, you know, pretty soon you find that there’s kind of like the everyday athlete, a subculture of guys who just want to get better. And whether they’re athletes still, you know, pursuing or whether they athletes who transition, there is a sub niche of folks who just love to compete.
Mat Lock
Yeah, sure. And that coaching role, how long? How long were you in coaching before the coaching role.
Coach cam
So I worked as a coach for about four to five years training athletes and developing them and really is working on this skill. Then I took a took a coaching job as a head coach and ultimately as athletic director for four years at a local high school and I was able to string together a number of wins, ironically enough. Basketball has always been my first love. And so while most of my career was spent playing football, I took a head basketball job and offensive coordinator job and then pretty early into that the athletic director position opened up and you know, a bit of conversation, I had the opportunity to, you know, bump the football coach, I could have taken his job and hired a basketball coach. But, you know, you know, I think there was more of a legacy, you know, especially as an athletic director, to build with what you have and find success versus you know, the easiest thing to do is a clean house. And so I left that that role after four years, but I was able to amass a large amount of wins in a relatively small amount of time.
Mat Lock
I believe I show how to practice this word, but you are recognized as the all time winningest coach winning just took me a few times before we came on on air to actually get that word, right. But it’s a Texas word. It’s a Texas I’m saying it wrong. Anyway, I’ve got the reaction happening.
Coach cam
That’s it. No, winning Yes. Yeah. Yeah. What do you what do you want your kid to be the winning is
Mat Lock
gonna say someone who’s playing football, aesthetically, is very different to someone playing basketball.
Coach cam
You know, um, I think that the athlete, his hips, and his his flexion right. So his ankle, knees and waist and really, it’s the fluidity to be able to transfer the school that coach that is a charter school. It was a it’s a that, you know, assigned as a highly underserved pocket. And so our demographics were like 85%, Hispanic, 14%, black, and then like one last white kid that didn’t know why he was there. So, so a big part of us building that football program was recruiting soccer players over Hispanic soccer players over from soccer. And you know, urban soccer is a tough sport yummy it’s a physical sport and so we would get these soccer kids who historically to your point wouldn’t be interested in football because they thought it was extremely Gladiator until you show them you know, a cornerback receiver matchup one on one is just as physical as for the strikers soccer like like if you can play that you can play over here. And you know, the soccer key those hips are just so fluid. I mean, they could just turn a foot those hips, so easy. So we actually, like our entire secondary came from our soccer field. And so, you know, they understood open space and understood coverage and understood closing on a ball. And so yeah, you know, I think there’s ways to marry up and I’m really, I’m really, I’m really fascinated with cross training, not just in sport, but in business. That’s, that’s a big piece of what you know, the success I’ve had is being able to take what I’ve learned here and apply it over here.
Mat Lock
Yeah, it’s a great segue. I was talking yesterday with a psychologist who specializes in customer and employee experience, he worked very much in the corporate space. Now he and his company does. And he also has a sporting background. And he’s a great believer in being able to pull an out you know that the synergies from a competitive sports environment and even doesn’t have to be competitive even it can be just the weekend warriors, let’s say the into functional training, which is very much our audience, you can draw parallels from what’s happening there from a psychological perspective, that sense of community, that sense of unified goal, all of those things, and camaraderie and, and how you can draw parallels with those into the business world. And it sounds like you’ve had a similar experience and be able to do that with your, your coaching and athletic director roles.
Coach cam
Yeah, as an entrepreneur, the first thing I can say is, I, I can definitely see the direct correlation between being in the zone and on the playing field. And being a closer as a salesperson, right. It’s just it’s, I don’t claim to be like the world’s great greatest salesperson, but just the the feeling of anticipation of No, this routine, I know what comes next, you know, you’re in my grasp. And I know that if I’m consistent with my performance, that I’m not only going to get the result that I want out of this player out of this transaction, not I’m not a big transactional guy, more of a relational guy. But more importantly, like, I know what it feels like when I’m in the zone, and I can hit that shot or close that play or close on that ball. I see that translation directly but but from a from a macro level, you know, what I did with my sports construction company, was I took the background of what I understood in sports construction. I took what I’m naturally good at in servant leadership and community development. And I’m married them together. So you know, that’s, that was a birth of my sports construction company.
Mat Lock
Sure, actually, let’s, let’s just sit there for a moment. What do you what do you say sports construction company? Oh, yeah, since I’m Bill went for therapy, great.
Coach cam
Yes, I build athletic surfaces. So football fields, basketball courts, putting greens batting cages, kind of you name the surface. And so I had a background in selling it previously, and building it, selling it working for another organization. But in 2017, during the Lenten season, during the spring, was really just perplexed in my faith, and just in where I was business wise, you know, I was having some success. But I also knew that the part of the servant leadership and you know, supporting my community was void. And, you know, just kind of had this honest conversation with God, like, Where should I be, to maximize what I know how to do and that’s where that kind of cross training and so you know how to build athletic surfaces, you know how to sell it, you know, how to get it installed. You also know, you know, some of the underserved pockets of your city and the impact that you can have, by putting dollars in that community, just put them together. And so I started in the residential space, and I would sell basketball courts and putting greens and batting cages and tennis courts in people’s backyards. And so, you know, for a batting cage 18,000 on a barricade I say, Well, hey, I’ll send this to you for, you know, for 17 for $15,000. You know, can you go write a $2,000 check to this nonprofit. And so, you know, you get your batting cage you want and I’ll take the kind of, I guess the loss on capitalize on what I could make, but now there’s $2,000 free it up or I can go across town and go do some meaningful work and what what it was not intended to be was the unique value proposition or unique selling proposition or was it a gimmick? very organic, but overnight is, you know, yeah, it was me and another competitor on a project. You know, I found myself overwhelmingly having success, because I was so true and so genuine with with the intent of driving commerce to make, you know, my city a better place.
Mat Lock
Yeah, that’s, that’s fantastic. Yeah, certainly, it adds another dimension, doesn’t it when there is a genuine purpose behind any business, that as you say, it’s not a marketing gimmick. It’s not a hook. It’s none of those things. It’s a very genuine, deep seated purpose ingrained throughout the business. That’s powerful stuff. Especially if the whole team were on board, and it really is company wide, it becomes part of the culture of the business. That’s, Yeah, super powerful.
Coach cam
Well, would it turn not Thank you. And what it turned into for us was, you know, oh, wow, this really works. So being again, you know, not being too Pollyanna, but, you know, being true to who you are, what we value works, so much. So to the point, that we can look back as a team and say, Okay, well, if, you know, creating micro scholarships is important to coach cam, you know, for kids first and family to go to college. And if, you know, feeding families for Thanksgiving is important for you. And adopting families for Christmas is important for you, and, you know, refurbishing prom dresses important for you, we were able to create really a holistic season of giving around the folks that worked within, you know, my organization, and kind of, you know, regurgitate it out into our community and create a really deep impact, just by being true to what was important to us.
Mat Lock
Yeah, absolutely. You know, it’s, um, I’m gonna name Brad, who owns a local company, he called it base camp, who have been a longtime support with by games, good friend, we’re in the surf club together, and so on. And I really like his approach with his business. And he employs about 18 people. And his approach to it all, is there’s enough for everyone. Like, I don’t need it all. And so it’s interesting to watch his business and operation and with his staff as well. And that’s really an ingrained part of the business. There’s not that trying to scrape every dollar they can out of every contract, every customer just said that Brad can build a bigger house, you know, he’s not motivated by that. And it’s just a nice ethos, isn’t it? There’s enough there is enough for everyone, actually. And yeah, we each of us don’t need it all. Often we need, you know, when we think we do,
Coach cam
yeah, and I agree, and I think that, where so many of our athletes who migrate into business flipped the switch. A bit misguided, is so much of what we do is a zero sum game. And I don’t know I don’t see business or success as a zero sum game. I mean, if we’re on the same team, it’s or even if we’re, you know, competitors across the street, you know, if we’re selling burgers, I don’t have to outsell you to have more success, like what I’m looking for is my success. Now, whether that number is you know, higher or lower than yours is something different. But if my goal is to create amazingly delicious burgers, like that’s my race, and I think there’s a lot of what translates into individual, you know, athletes, individual sport athletes so well is I’m just running my race. I mean, every individual athlete enjoys a PR over a metal the right I could be in a slow heat and metal, that doesn’t mean I performed well, it really becomes, you know, what is my best?
Mat Lock
Yeah, it’s been over usually. So if I quite like the term, it seems to fit to that whole theory of stay in your lane, just run your own race. That’s it, run your race. Now you sound like a busy guy, you’ve got the construction company, sports construction company, and you’re consulting as well to business owners, right? You’re helping other business owners to improve their businesses, their lives, I guess, because it’s all around wealth, health, and success. Talk to me a little bit about that. How do you approach those subjects? Most small business owners, and I’m assuming that it’s small business owners, and correct me if I’m wrong, but if it is small business owners, they’re busy people, they’re juggling a million balls, all the ones you know, they’re running around, very busy in their work life. There’s a family life always to consider, of course, and their own health and wellness. I’m interested how you approach that, especially in a year. I mean, you know, we’re recording this in 2020. It’s a tough year globally, with the pandemic that touched every aspect of all of our lives. But you know, you’re based in the US and the US for sure has been hit hard by the pandemic. So I’m not to make this a COVID discussion. But using that somewhat as a pre frame given how busy business owners are these days, just trying to make ends meet, keep it afloat. How do you approach that?
Coach cam
You know, I think so. It’s a really good question. The approach is similar to a freshman, going through an offseason program again, regardless of the sport, you know, you can take some pre workout and run around the gym, and that does, you’re not going to get bigger, faster or stronger. Right. So it really is about having a schematic. And so whether whether you know, no matter what your scheme is for you to improve or or for you to get, you know, add add bulk, add lean on, lean out, whatever it is not to have a schematic or framework for success, you know, no coach would go into a game without a game plan. And so it’s just simply just, what is your game plan to make the most of your day? And, you know, the idea really came about I wrote my first book last fall with alpha redefine, it’s about servant leadership. And I did a small promo tour about six cities. And the one question I got asked more than anything, was, you know, how do you do so many things in one day, and I just was shrug and say, I, when the first quarter of my day, I have systems and protocols in place, and they’re not overly rigid, right, and we have to be flexible, especially during COVID, you got to be flexible. And I typically get up at 330, to get to the gym and for where the gyms don’t open, you know, until five, at least here now. And so, you know, there has to be a bit of fluidity. But ultimately, like any other athlete, if you don’t have a game plan, you know, you’re planning to fail. So, you know, I say the short answer is, you know, identifying busy from productive and those are cousins, they look alike, but they’re not alike. But then you know, prioritizing, know what it takes for you to be successful.
Mat Lock
Absolutely. So I’m interested, I’d love the fact that you boil it down, not only just to a day by day blow, but actually, you’re talking about the first quarter of the day as being I guess, the the setup for the rest of that day. So how does that look? I mean, I assume this intention around the activities. I mean, you’re showing, let’s go talk me through the the ethos of the first quarter of your day.
Coach cam
Yeah, so I break the first quarter of the day up into a number of different spaces. And the first one is, you know, literally, when you open your eyes, what is the first thing that you say to yourself that you say, you know, to God, or whatever being the to call upon and, you know, as a person in transparency, who can struggle with anxiety works way too much. Sometimes stress is a challenge. You know, the first thing when I went when I opened up on a wick, when I opened my eyes, I asked myself, do I need Grace? Or can I call on gratitude. And so the mornings where I feel the anxiety, I feel the urge to check my email or my voicemail, I know I have some to do from yesterday, I simply call on grace, and I’m just thankful for, you know, waking up, I’m thankful for standing up and you know, I have I have a little bit of back pain now. And it’s like, you know, I can feel my back. I’m thankful for that. I’m thankful for the toothpaste. I’m thankful for my family as I leave out of my house, and it gives me a sense of calm as I get ready to start my day. With the other side of it is if you’ve got great momentum, you close a deal last night, you know, things are going great. You know, you call it on grace. And so I’m really calm you grab so you have gratitude. So I’m you know, I have so much gratitude for the deal I closed last night and the momentum that’s gonna lead me into, you know, going to get a lift and and going to get a run in. And so no, it really does start with understanding where your energy is for that day. Knowing that that can can transfer either side on a day in and day out basis.
Mat Lock
Yeah, absolutely. And so I guess here we’re talking about mindfulness. Here, we’re talking about actually taking the time to stop and reflect on all of those subjects, I guess what’s happening in life a bit like, I guess, guided meditation, where it gets you just to sit and be present and feel the floor under your feet and your hands on your legs, that kind of stuff. Yeah, a deep seated sense of mindfulness. So, I mean, how does that set you up? For the next step for what do they look like?
Coach cam
So so once so so we literally do is like walk through like those first four hours. And so you’ve you’ve gotten up, you’ve had some time with God, you’ve reflected, you, you You’re now headed to go, you know, have some type of physical activity in no matter what that physical activity looks like. Right? So whether it’s a stretch, whether it’s yoga, whether it’s an intense lifts, so I typically lift for 45 minutes to an hour every day. And then, you know, come behind that with 30 minutes or 20 to 30 minutes of cardio, just depending on, you know, I’m not the I’m a pretty big guy. I’m agile for my size, but you know, I’d rather not have to run more than 30 minutes if I can’t catch it. 30 minutes. I’m not gonna catch it.
Mat Lock
We talked a little bit off air about your previous way. Well, what do you weigh in if at the moment if you don’t mind saying,
Coach cam
so I’m, I’m six four, I’m 265. Now, I was 255 before COVID so I’ve got this Tim ward. COVID pals to drop. You know, the one thing I can say, you know, most people are fussing about their COVID weight. If you did not have fun putting on your COVID weight this year, I had a blast. I’ve got about 10 more pounds to get back to kind of my normal weight.
Mat Lock
Your chunk lighter at the moment than your I guess your 40 weight is what I think we talked about the 300 pounds or 156 kilograms.
Coach cam
Yeah, so I was a big guy. And I fixed weighing. So I play, I plan it to 50 to 50 to 45 to 60 kind of window. But after I got through playing I below that I was plus 300 pounds. I was 300 pounds in in 2017. And I re engaged in my physical fitness journey in 20 2015. Outside, and you know, you know how it is it’s a process. And so you’re lifting and you’re working out based upon the mental of you being your best 10 years ago, you’re using outdated technique, and outdated workouts and frameworks that you kind of remember I think we used to do this and Lord knows you’re not running as much as you should get into cardio. You should. And then you know diet like What’s that? Right. And so the first two years I’d say was just get you know, falling back in love with the gym, I think I had a pretty strong detachment from working out when I got through playing I just didn’t didn’t do it. And so as I began to kind of get in shape, and again, you know your competitors, so like, what do you want that body to look like if some of it was, you know, hey, amigo, this isn’t you’re not going to look at 30 something Hallo it did at 19. Let’s just have a really honest conversation about that. So how do you, you know, reframe and reshape the best version of yourself that you can. And this also coincided with some pretty major setbacks in my personal life, I lost my job, I faced a pretty tough financial situation. And you know, as a coach, I used to always say, like, you know, you’re gonna have a hard time beating me, but you won’t beat me twice the same way. Like, you’re not going to do that. And so I say what I call my best, when I walked into my best, or the height of my best at the beginning of 2015, I was, you know, was not a shape, I was making poor dietary choices, making bad lifestyle choices. And I literally made the choice to rebuild and redesign myself and a lot of that had to do with, you know, physical fitness as being an anchor of who I am.
Mat Lock
Yeah, well, I’m certainly glad you found your way back. You know, it seems to be quite common that for professional or semi professional athletes, and you know, athletes who do it for a living, they do it full time. I guess naturally, when when you stop doing that, when you step out of that world, you’re stepping out of the whole support infrastructure as well, the whole ecosystem. Not just the actual training in the plane, but everything that the infrastructure goes around, and there doesn’t seem to be a lot of support in place to help people transition from from that role into I mean, it’s similar for, you know, former Olympians World Champion, certainly team sport in particular, I think. Yeah, it’s a shame. And you can see how easy would be to either keep eating the same volumes without the same training volume. And of course, we understand well, that the the impact will be ordered, simply just go. And do you know what, I’m just going to go off the rails for it, and let it go.
Coach cam
Yeah, right. It’s always funny, and, you know, you kind of age yourself, and you begin to have like, the class reunions and the team reunions. And you see, like, the all American are the guy who played professional sports, and it’s like, like, what, what, what did you do I What did you eat? You know, and some of it is, you know, you. And a big part of my message when I was coaching, you know, at the high school level is, you know, athletics, you have to have an ego separator of what your performance is on the playing field and who you actually are. And I didn’t have that skill set built into me. And so when I finished playing, you know, athlete was something I put down understanding, not understanding that it’s a lifelong journey of physical fitness and well being. And it was kind of a ego crosswire of, you know, yes, I’ve put working out and putting heavy stress on my body and lifting extremely heavy weights and running to you know, exhaustion down. Instead of picking the best versions of it up. I had to go back and pick those things up. Because ultimately, you know, that sacrifice really anchors who you are when you’re training and competing. You know, I think that’s it. When you truly feel the most liberated no matter what level of performance it is, and know, your skill set, you know, your PR, I mean, especially, you know, here, there’s a lot of perceived, you know, either bottom up body shaming, but like stress shaming, ego shaming, in, you know, like CrossFit and commercial gyms. And it’s like, you know, you don’t know my struggle, bro. You know what I mean? So some of it is just being isolated into, you know, into who you are, I faced that pretty significantly, I ran a 5k. This year. My neighbor tricked me into it. So my neighbor, my neighbor’s, the wife said, Hey, I want to run a 5k. You know, sign up, let’s go do it. And she didn’t back me out. Yeah, I’m a competitor. So yeah, sign up, I’m doing I mean, it was 30 bucks or whatever. So went even about the money, but I put my name on the line, I’m going to do it. So I began to alter my my lift and my my run, you know, workouts for about six weeks, kind of getting into that kind of, you know, shape to be able to run, you know, I call it a marathon. You know, some people laugh at me when I say that, but like I said, you know, 267 pounds, run in a couple of miles, come on. Now that that is a matter of thought. But, but the point I’m making is, you know, the runner community is so supportive, and they were like, literally, like, come with what you have, understand how far you can physically, you know, get yourself to go and just give it the best you got, like, let’s not, you know, just not kill yourself on your Apple Watch and check for you know, your pace and just give them the best you have. And I think that the run a community is such, it’s such a liberated community, within the sports niche. Because you know, it doesn’t matter where you are, where you come from, they just want you to try and glorify and accept that you’ve given the best that you have.
Mat Lock
Yeah, absolutely. And if I’m honest, I don’t think that’s exclusive to running. I mean, I’ve that’s my experience in the functional fitness and functional training realm. Certainly, that’s the spirit of the bay games and everything we do. For our events, you don’t you don’t have to qualify, there’s none of that. Yeah, you all are welcome, all ages, all abilities. And the sense of camaraderie is something that’s quite magical. And that’s my experience in Yeah, as I say, in the in the gym environment as well, which the gym environment for me is, let’s say, f 45, CrossFit, you know, boutique, gyms that are into functional training. And the sense of community and camaraderie is just magical. And it’s empowering, and liberating to use your word as well, it’s, yeah, I appreciate and the running community for sure that they also are that way inclined. And it’s that sense of community that I think can help elevate all of us. And we all have the power to elevate others as a result by being part of but by playing our part in that community, and supporting those around us, regardless of what they can run, lift, whatever it is, I’m certainly no hero. In the functional training world. It’s a long journey of learning ahead as always, for everyone, but but loving it, and it’s not lost on me the power that we we each have within those communities to play our part. I’m conscious of time, Coach again. So I know that you’ve got you’ve got your course, which will be available, either very soon, or by the time we add this, it might even be available already called when the first quarter of your data playbook for wealth, health and success. I look forward to engaging with that. I think I want to know more about that or want to reach out and make contact with you. How do they do that?
Coach cam
Yeah, so you can find me on all social media platforms? COACH cam cares, on Instagram, YouTube, Twitter, I guess people still use Facebook. And then and then the course is a coach Cam courses.com. And yes, it’s available now. And we’ve gotten some really cool feedback from it. You know, the biggest takeaway is, you know, I know that I need structure in the first half of my day. And really, I’d say this kind of in closing, you know, what we’re building out in the first four hours of our day, is the offseason right. And so championships are literally won in the offseason because you leverage your success. And so by creating a snowball of wins before you get to your desk, you know, is really what I found to be the key to maximizing, you know, the 24 hours that we
Mat Lock
have. That’s such a good way of looking at it and the fact we have 24 hours right now Very good. Well sending all of the links and the various contact points, I’ll put in the show notes. But certainly I’d like to it’s been a pleasure to chatting with you. I appreciate what you’re offering to the world what you bring to the world. Certainly, you have a certain energy around you, which I have personally appreciated in meeting you today. And yeah, I look forward to continuing to watch your journey unfold. And yeah, obviously wish you every success in the world.
Coach cam
Man, thanks for having me. I appreciate it. I love the show. I love the energy around everything about creating consistent athletes on a day in and day out basis and bringing a game is what the world needs for sure. So thanks.
Mat Lock
Absolutely. Until next time. There we go. Awkward poor so we can edit. I forgot to mention
